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Total doses produced
#1
As of January 18, the CDC indicates 56,643,250 doses were distributed or stored for shipment as 2nd doses from the US government.  That's enough for both doses for 28,321,625 people, approximately 10.3% of the US 18+ population.  Pretty good for 35 days after the first EUA.

Contracts are in place to produce a total of 200M doses (100M people) by the end of February or March, with another 200M doses (100M people)  (85M by June 30; 15M by Jul 31).  Production (currently nearly 10M/week) has been expected to speed up by a factor of 5 but hasn't yet. 

Considering everything, that's an astounding set of feats: that the researchers & drug companies pulled the drugs together, that the trials went so fast, that the drugs were so effective that the approval was pretty easy and quick, that the production was running before approval, that the delivery has been pretty routine.

It is unfortunate that the last mile, run by the states, has been problematic.  California has only administered 32.7% of the 1st doses received, while the rest of the country has administered 43.6%.
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#2
So am I hearing this correctly, the Feds did things well and CA has screwed up the final stretch? But a friend high in a local county's admin told me the they had just seen the Biden plan for the roll out, and it's so much better than Trump's plan. . . .

According to the NYT, only Virginia and Alabama have done a worse job than California rolling out what they have. Pathetic.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020...doses.html
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#3
I read somewhere that after the FDA approved squeezing 6 doses out of each vial, Pfizer reclassified how many vials they needed to send to satisfy their dosage order since they now could serve 6 instead of 5.  Basically a 16.7% reduction in vials.

The kicker is that one can only get 6 doses out of each vial if you use the right type of syringe...which apparently not all places have.  

As far as total does produced, I guess they just increased production by 20%.

Here's a link after a quick search:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/healt...the%20dose.
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#4
Wow, that's a rotten deal. Pfizer will deliver less vaccine in the same time frame than they committed to. It is up to the end-user (health provider) to squeeeeze that extra dose out, or else. Use it or lose it. Some will be lost. So there will be less doses available to go in people's arms.
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#5
In a political sleight-of-hand, the current administration is claiming that they are shipping 16% more vaccine, but it appears that they actually are shipping the same amount of vaccine, just changing the claimed doses.

The drug companies produce less vaccine per dollar paid to them.  The politicians claim they are improving vaccine delivery.    But the people don't win.


In other news, the current administration is buying enough additional vaccine so the total number of courses is 300M.  Who is to get the remaining 50M doses after the roughly 250M 16+ are vaccinated?   Or was paying for 20% more doses than needed some sort of incentive to the drug company?


Also, the current administration is limiting shipments to less than available doses by guaranteeing they will deliver no more than they promise 3 weeks earlier.  If the drug companies produce more vaccine, the government won't ship it.  Indeed, the government may have to create a reserve of 3 weeks of doses in case of a problem (say a fire breaks out at a plant).
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#6
How about the millions that are here illegally? Actually heard on the local news yesterday, the concern over "vaccine tourism"--come to the US, get a free vaccine, and leave (or stay, as Biden's announced he's not enforcing visa overstays). . . .
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#7
Gross, doesn't belong on the board IMHO.
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#8
(01-27-2021, 09:55 PM)dabigv13 Wrote: Gross, doesn't belong on the board IMHO.
Not following your point, what's gross?

What is the total number of people in the US? Keep hearing around 300-320 million. Does that include those here illegally, I've heard that estimate of those actually counted is significantly less than the real number? So if the total number of people residing in the US is really 320-340 million, wouldn't that account for the additional doses needed to vaccinate everyone here? If that conjecture is correct, seems like a reasonable plan to me.

As for "vaccine tourism" I believe I heard that report on KTVU, probably the most liberal station around. If they're reporting it, seems like a potential issue.
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#9
Whether or not someone is here with legal status, they're still a human being, and they're going to be a part of the pandemic. They're also probably far more likely to be infected and die, demographically. Do you think you're more deserving than the person without legal status picking your fruit?

If this board is going to be lousy with right wing provocation like the last one, I'm out.
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#10
(01-28-2021, 10:04 AM)dabigv13 Wrote: Whether or not someone is here with legal status, they're still a human being, and they're going to be a part of the pandemic. They're also probably far more likely to be infected and die, demographically. Do you think you're more deserving than the person without legal status picking your fruit?

If this board is going to be lousy with right wing provocation like the last one, I'm out.
Which comment are you talking about? Mine?

I clearly stated that it made sense to have enough vaccines to vaccinate everyone here, legally or not, and that the added doses may be required to meet the unknown demand of those here illegally that may be undercounted.

Right wing provocation? Poor assumption.


And as for vaccine tourism, here's a link from the bastion of conservative propaganda, NBC:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vac...s-n1255531
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